笑笑 巴夏Bashar 2019-05-26 问： I have a question about forgiveness. 我有个关于“宽恕”的问题 So when I decide that I want to forgive someone, one method I reach for is imagining that they are doing absolute best they can giving their past and current circumstances. 当我决定要“宽恕”某个人的时候，我使用的一种方法是：在基于对方之前的经历与现状的状况，我想象：他们的行为，已经是目前所能做的最好的了 巴夏： Yes, they are! All of you are. 是的，他们已经做到最好了，你们每个人也都已经做到最好了！ 问： Like “forgive them father, they know not what they do” kind of idea. 就像是耶稣说的那样：“父啊，宽恕他们吧！他们不知道自己在做什么！” 巴夏： Kind of, yes! 差不多，是的！ 问： But I noticed that sometimes sets up in me a subtle like superiority of them which I'm... 但有时候，我注意到，我内心会涌起一丝比他们“优越”的感觉 巴夏： Well, then you have to examine things within you that you need to forgive within yourself. 那么，你就需要检视你的内在，看看你内心中有什么东西，是你需要宽恕自己的？ 问： Yeah! 是的！ The question is: is there a frame of reference I could use for forgiveness that wouldn't lead me down that as much or just the one you said just to forgive myself? 我的问题是：对于“宽恕”，你有什么可用的参考建议（参照系），让我可以不用步入那么深的境地了（产生优越感），还是说，我只需要按你说的“宽恕自己”呢？ 巴夏： Well, again, you understand that some people may simply never have been taught the tools they need to express himself in a more positive way 你知道的：对于有些人来说，可能从来都没人教他们如何用一些方法，从而更积极正面地表达自己 So you can come from compassion in the same way that... You don't really hold a child to blame or responsible for something that they don't understand how to do better. 所以，你可以出发于这样的慈悲心（同情），就像对一个不知道如何把某件事做得更好的孩子来说，你不会责备他们，抓着他们不放，要求他们对此事负责吧？ 问： Yes! 是的！ 巴夏： You teach them how to do it better. 你会教他们如何把这件事做得更好 Now doesn't mean they have to choose it. 但这并不意味着他们就必须得这么做 But the ideas this at you need to be the shining example that will allow them to know that at least there's an option for how they could be living your life more joyfully by seeing that you're doing it 你需要成为一个闪耀着光芒的榜样，这样的话，当他们看见你这么做的时候，就会明白：至少自己还可以学习（选择）你那样做法，从而活得更加喜乐 Because generally speaking, when you see empowered people, you want to know how they are empowered and you will want to figure out how to do the same thing for yourself 因为，通常来说，当你看到一个人很强大的时候，你会想知道他是如何变得强大的，你会想方设法，让自己也可以做得像他那样 So teaching them the instruction manual how it works will at least give them the option 所以，你教他们“兴奋的行动指南”是如何运作的，这至少让他们有一个可选的“出路” they may still be holding on the belief that won't let them abide by it or use it to their advantage （即使）他们可能仍然坚持自己原有的信念，而不遵循或使用这个能给他们带来助益的“行动指南” But you've done what you can 但是，你已经做了你所能做的了 And what they do with what you taught them is none of your business. 至于他们怎么看待你所教的内容，则不关你的事了 问： Right. 说的对！ I can have compassion for their experience and respect choices. 对于他们的经历，我心怀慈悲；对于他们的选择，我心有尊重 巴夏： Yes! And absolutely respect their choices 是的！绝对地尊重他们的选择！ Because you don't know what their path actually is. 因为，你并不知道真正属于他们的道路是什么样 And you don't know what they really might need to go through in order to have a greater appreciation when they finally do understand how to transform. 你也不知道他们可能需要经历什么样的事情，才能在最终知道如何转化自己的人生之后，对生命的一切有着更大的感激之情 All you can do is give them some options, and be on your way. 你能做的全部，就是：给他们一些选项，然后，走你自己的道路 问： Thank you! 谢谢！ And just imparting, what frequency are you reading in me? 顺便请你帮我看看我的振频？ 巴夏： Right now? 现在的振频吗？ 问： Yes! 是的！ 巴夏： It's about 156,000 cps. 大约是156000 赫兹 问： Thank you very much! Unconditional love to you, Bashar! 非常感谢你，巴夏！我无条件地爱你！ 巴夏： You're welcome. And you as well. 不客气，我们也无条件地爱你！ 《宽恕的振频》 https://v.qq.com/x/page/t05212olp66.html 巴夏： Here's something else that's a very, very, very powerful tool 这是另一个非常非常强大（化解愤怒）的工具 You have a word for it 你们用一个词来表述它 But many of you don't actually understand what it is 但你们中的很多人，都没明白它的真正意思 Forgiveness. 宽恕 You follow me? 你明白吗？ 问： Yes 是的 巴夏： What is forgiveness? 什么是“宽恕”呢？ I'll tell you, thank you 让我来告诉你吧，谢谢！ This is what forgiveness as a state of being is actually vibrationally mechanically doing 从振动的运作机制上看，“宽恕”这种存在的状态，做了以下事情 When you go into a state of forgiveness 当你进入“宽恕”的状态 You are forgiving yourself 你就是在宽恕自己 You are forgiving others 你就是在宽恕他人 Yes? 是不是这样呢？ 问： Yes 是的 巴夏： It actually is a vibration that has the ability to actually neutralize the negative consequences of a negative choice someone may have made 宽恕的振动，能够抵消（中和）某个人的负面选择所带来的负面结果 Do you understand? 你明白吗？ 问： Yes 明白 巴夏： All right. 好的 You know that everything you choose to do will have in physical reality, some form of consequence, some form of outcome 你也知道，你选择做的每件事情，都会在物质世界中形成某种结果，带来某种后果 Even in what you call the afterlife 即使在你们所谓的“死后” You've heard the term, the life review. 你也听说过“人生回顾”这个词 问： Yes 是的 巴夏： You will look back at your life 在你死后，你会回顾你的这一生 And you will experience all of the consequences of the choices you made from the point of view of anyone who was ever in any way shape or form, choosing to be affected by anything that you did 你会从每一个曾经选择被你的行为影响的人的角度，去体验你的每个选择带给他们的所有结果 As if you were them 就好像，你就是他们一样 Do you understand? 你明白吗？ 问： Yes 明白 巴夏： Now forgiveness of self and forgiveness of others can actually neutralize the experience of a consequence generated through a negative act 而自我宽恕和宽恕他人，能够抵消负面行为带来的影响，免除你们负面结果的经历 So that even in physical life 所以，即使在物质生活中 And even in the life review 甚至在死后的人生回顾中 If that get canceled out by forgiveness 如果这些负面被“宽恕”消除了 The person will not have to experience the consequence of a choice they made that might have had a negative consequence. 那么，这个人就不一定需要经历他的某些选择所可能产生的负面结果 This is the actual interpretation and meaning when people in religious contexts say that “a being like Jesus took away your sins” 这就是某些宗教人士说的：像耶稣那样的人“能够赦免你的罪” 的准确解读和真正意思 It means 它的意思是： when that being said:” Father, forgive them. They know not what they do. “ 当耶稣说：“父啊！宽恕他们吧！因为他们不知道自己做的是什么” He was offering you the vibrational teaching that forgiveness can actually neutralize the consequence of a negative choice 耶稣给予你们的是“振动式教导”，让你们明白：宽恕能够抵消（无效化）负面选择所带来的结果 So that you wouldn't have to experience what it was the people of the time were doing to him as a negative act 这样你们就不需要经历那时的人们对他做的负面行为，而产生的负面结果 He forgave you all for all time. 他永远地宽恕了你们所有人 Do you understand? 你明白了吗？ 问： Yes 是的 巴夏： That has a profound affect of allowing you to be free to forgive yourselves and others and come back into alignment. 这对于你们能够自由地宽恕自己和他人，并且回到与真我一致的状态，具有深远的影响 This is where we began our understanding and practice of neutrality for any kind of consequence of a choice that might have been negative in our ancient past 这也是我们理解和练习“中立”的开始之时（耶稣之死），并消除我们族人在过往中的负面选择所产生的任何一种结果 Neutralize 意思： vt. 抵销；使…中和；使…无效；使…中立 vi. 中和；中立化；变无效 《耶稣的宽恕》 https://v.qq.com/x/page/f0177fczwdb.html 问： I was also wondering if you could elaborate more on the idea of forgiveness. 我想，你能否跟我们详细讲解一下“宽恕” It's something that's very pertinent to my life 宽恕跟我的生活，密切相关 巴夏： As we said, it mitigates the idea of the consequences of negative acts. 正如我们所说的，宽恕减轻了负面行为的后果 What more needs to be said about it 还有什么需要说的吗？ 问： Why it is so difficult? 为什么宽恕这么难？ 巴夏： I'll say this, 我这么说吧 You have had many expressions and examples of what you would call masters on your planet throughout your history, ascended masters, learned teachers 你们历史上，出现过很多开悟大师、扬升大师、圣人、贤者 Who have created many different kinds of expressions and passion plays and so on and so forth. 对于如何活出精彩生命，他们做了很多精妙的讲解，与实际的行动榜样 In what you call your biblical literature. 在你们的《圣经》中 You have the idea of the christ consciousness being nailed to a cross 有提到，耶稣被钉在十字架上的故事 People on your planet say 你们地球人说： He died for your sins 「祂为我们的罪死了」《哥林多前书》15章3-4节 What that really means is, is that 这句话的真正的意思是： When he said, father, forgive them for they know not what they do. 当耶稣说：“父啊！宽恕他们吧！因为他们不知道他们做的是什么！” He was expressing the idea specifically that 祂说这个，想表达的是： The energy of forgiveness would mitigate the negative consequences for all the people that it actually done that to him. 宽恕的能量，能减轻所有的人对祂所做的，而导致的的负面结果 That's what forgiving you for your sins means 这是“宽恕了你的罪”的真正意思 That's what the phrase means is that “he died for your sins” 这就是“祂为你们的罪死了”这句话的真正意思 By teaching you in the middle of that act, in the middle of what people had done 在受难过程中，耶稣向人们教导: Teaching that forgiveness was his way of actually relieving them 人们对祂做的一切，祂都宽恕 of any negative consequences of the choices that they made to do that to him. 祂的宽恕，能给消除（减轻）他们这种行为导致的任何负面结果 That's what that means. 这才是耶稣的教导的真正意思 So it was a very profound act of compassion 所以，耶稣的行为，充满了极深的爱意 And a very great teaching lesson 而且这也是一堂宝贵、伟大的课 if you understand what the lesson actually was, 如果你真的清楚“耶稣的真意” And you understand what forgiveness is 以及宽恕的真意 Does that help? 这对你有帮助吗？ 问： Yes! And on that note I'm in the course in miracles right now. 很有帮助！我现在在研习《奇迹课程》中 巴夏： All right. 很好！（以下翻译，个人理解，未必正确） 问： And so that that forgiveness is a huge thing 在《奇迹课程》中，宽恕是非常重要的 I'm very interested in the idea of the first separation 我对神/上主/一切万有的第一次分裂，非常感兴趣 And the forgiveness of that separation, as it is discussed in that book 以及对《奇迹课程》中谈到的“对分裂的宽恕”，也想深入了解 巴夏： The idea of the first separation is what we have typically referred to as the angelic realm. 神/上主/一切万有的第一次分裂，就是我们所说的:天使 The first reflection of All That Is, of itself 天使，作为“神”的第一个对照物 Can in some senses, be said to be what became the recognition of the angels 在某种意义上可以说，天使，使“神”可以认出“神”与“天使” The so-called idea of forgiveness enters this equation 同样的，宽恕也可以这么看 Only in the sense of knowing that there is really nothing to forgive 宽恕，只是让你明白，没什么需要宽恕 Within the idea of simply experiencing yourself from a different point of view, 因为你只是从另外一个角度，去体验你自己 And that by adding the negative polarity into the equation 通过引入负面的东西 Is where it comes into thinking that forgiveness is needed. 使得认为“你需要宽恕”这种想法，变得可能 So the forgiveness in this sense in this context, as you mean it 所以，按照这种说法，你所谓的宽恕 Is the forgiveness of thinking you needed forgiveness 是宽恕你自己“需要宽恕他人”的这种想法 In order to experience a polarized reflection of yourself 因为这样，你才能从相反的一面，去体验你自己 Because it's simply one way to experience yourself 因为这也只是体验自己的一种方法 And there is nothing necessarily negative about using negativity in a positive way 所以，以“正面的方式”使用“负面东西”，那负面就不是负面 And therefore there is nothing to forgive, If that is the way it is used 因此，如果这么做的话，就没什么需要宽恕 Does that make sense? -- Yeah! 明白吗？--是的！ Does that help? 这对你有帮助吗？ 问： Yeah! Very much does ---All right. 是的！非常有帮助！很好！ 巴夏： Thank you. Thank you! 谢谢你！--- 谢谢你！ I forgive you for asking the question, 我宽恕你问了这个问题 No, no, no forgiveness requires. 不！不！无需宽恕！ 《Father Fogive them》 《父啊！宽恕他们吧！》 天才少女画家Akiane画的耶稣相 【全線閱讀】《巴夏信息》